OSM Indoor Meeting 2023-09-14
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Project LevelOut
- Prototype for a BIM to OSM SIT Konverters
- Input-Format is IFC (Industry Foundation Classes)
- Implemented as a plugin for https://github.com/opensourcebim/bimserver
- LevelOut plugins and web app: https://bauinformatik.github.io/levelout/
- Looking into developing into a IFC data donation app, ggf. via Prototype Fund project
- Various modelling challenges
- level separation / sub-levels
- vertical connections between levels
- private/publicly accessible rooms (properties in IFC exist, but aren't always set)
- maintenance/infrastructure levels/shafts etc
- thin wall vs thick wall
- BIM data exist for practically all newly constructed buildings and sometimes also for existing buildings, but in general not publicly available
- For existing buildings there are various approaches/research projects:
- 3D scanner/point clouds
- digitize paper plans
- image processing of escape plans (see e.g. Accessible Maps)
- CAD
- Example output: https://cloud.uni-weimar.de/s/MXQQoonJTpTsDK3 (link will expire 4 weeks after the meeting)
Modelling of stairs
- SIT models stairs as polygons, which doesn't cover details such as landings
- possible alternative modeling approaches: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Daveloper/indoor-stairs-mapping
- further modeling approaches:
- only ways (as done in outdoor, commonly found e.g. in train stations)
- "U-polygon"
- "U-polygon" and way with level information per node
- can we unify differences between indoor and outdoor stair mapping?
- indoor stairs need to stackable, this is usually not necessary outdoor
- how to model free-standing stairs? Those pose an underrun risk e.g. for blind people navigating based on map data
- indoor:room: Staircase with surrounding walls, no underrun possible
- indoor:area: no surrounding wall, but no information whether underrun is possible or not
- Does the underrun risk need to be modeled/mapped explicitly? Implicit inference is not possible in all cases.
- Preferred stair modelling: polygon + way
Further collaboration/communication
- Replace ad-hoc mail distribution with an OSM mailing list
- Roland to organize the mailing list, Volker to communicate that to the existing distribution list
- Sign up here: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/indoor
- Proposal development:
- can be edited collaboratively in an Etherpad/Hackpad
- should be based on an existing/working implementation
- needs people spending time on this
- Proposal for stair modelling: https://hackmd.io/RdID_VHRRJmV8O8_RClJdg
- Online meeting:
- turn into a regular meeting
- quarterly
- also advertise in Wiki and forum
- In-person meeting:
- do another FOSSGIS BoF