Proposal:Shop=bakery,confectionery
| shop=bakery,confectionery | |
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| Proposal status: | Inactive (inactive) |
| Proposed by: | CS Mur |
| Tagging: | shop=bakery |
| Applies to: |  , 
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| Definition: | For shops selling various bakery goods or confections. |
| Rendered as: | As a shop of appropriate type |
| Draft started: | 2013-06-26 |
| RFC start: | 2013-06-26 |
Summary
OSM currently has misleading English definitions used for the tags for bakery and confectionery shops; different than those of dictionaries, wikipedia, government, and common usage in many English-speaking nations. These are probably the result of language translation mismatches.
A tagging of shops to indicate the types of goods sold would be useful, such as identifying a bakery that sells only bread as opposed to one that sells multiple types of bakery goods.
This proposal fixes the bad definitions in English for bakery and confectionery. Additional sub tags to specify types of goods sold and other properties are also defined or identified.
Current Use
| Key | Value | Elements | Description | Icon | Image |
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| shop | bakery |
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Selling bread |  |
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| shop | confectionery |
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A shop selling sweets and pastry |  |
You may click on the key value in the table to see the current bakery or confectionery article.
Proposal
The revised entries for shops
| Key | Value | Elements | Description | Icon | Image |
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| shop | bakery |
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A shop selling bread, cakes, pastries, pies or other bakery goods. For setting properties and types of bakery goods sold, see the article for details | |
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| shop | confectionery |
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A shop selling sweets and chocolates (North Amer: candy). For setting properties and types of confectionery sold, see the article for details | |
Revised shop=bakery article
Tag:shop=bakery
A shop that sells bakery goods such as bread, cakes, pastries, and pies. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakery
Tags to use in combination
The kinds of bakery goods are large and varied, can be grouped, but as wikipedia says in a cake article: "Determining whether a given food should be classified as bread, cake, or pastry can be difficult." The following table provides some organization for tagging the variety of bakery products offered by a shop. Consider how a user doing a search on a type of bakery good would react upon going to the bakery for that good, so tagging very minor offerings is probably not good practice. Tagging types yes or no may be important in regions where use of a shop type name or certification is regulated based on what is sold.
If a bakery only sells a type of bakery goods part of the time, such as speciality breads (holiday breads) during certain seasons such as Christmas, Easter, Passover, a conditional tag should be used, such as specialty_bread:conditional=yes @ holidays. This informs the OSM user seeking such baked goods to check with the bakery for product availability before a trip to the bakery.
| Tag | Description | Examples of Type |
|---|---|---|
| bagel=yes/no/only | A leavened, ring shaped, firm textured roll made of dough, first poached then baked. see Bagel on Wikipedia | bagel |
| bread=yes/no/only | A food made from flour or meal mixed with milk or water to make a dough, with or without yeast or other leavening agent, then baked. Especially such bakery goods considered a staple. | yeast bread, artisan bread, rustic bread, dinner roll, hard roll, flat bread, soda bread, baguettes, ciabatta, focaccia, pita, tortilla |
| cake=yes/no/only | A bakery good made from a batter usually containing flour, sugar, baking powder or soda, eggs and flavouring, and may contain shortening or oil. | layer cake, sheet cake, snack cake, bundt cake, pound cake, sponge cake, cupcake, torte, fruit cake, nut cake. |
| cobbler=yes/no/only | A baked fruit dessert that uses a batter or dough as a base, top or shell. see Cobbler (food) on Wikipedia | cobbler, bettie, (American usage) crisp, crumble, pandowdy, fruit dumpling. |
| cookie=yes/no/only | A small cake baked from stiff sweet dough. see Cookie on Wikipedia | cookie, brownie, blondie, bar cookie, shortbread, (British usage) biscuit |
| donut=yes/no/only | A fried or baked dough dessert food often in a ring or flattened sphere shape. May have a filling. see Donut on Wikipedia | donut, doughnut, beignet, fritter, twist |
| pastry=yes/no/only | A baked food primarily made with pastry dough. see Pastry on Wikipedia | baklava, croissant, danish pastry, kolache, puff pastry, cream puff, eclair, strudel, turnover. |
| pie=yes/no/only | A baked food using a pastry crust. see Pie on Wikipedia | pie, tart, pastie, quiche. |
| speciality_bread=yes/no/only | A bread not considered a staple, a treat made from bread dough, or quick bread. Use a conditional tag if only sold sometimes, speciality_bread:conditional=yes @ (Sa-Su). | holiday bread, monkey bread, brioche, challah, stollen, quick bread, banana bread, zucchini bread, bun, cinnamon roll, sweet roll, cornbread, spoonbread, muffin, (non-British usage) biscuit, english muffin, scone, popover |
| Tag | Description | Example |
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| name=* | Name of shop. | |
| opening_hours=* | When the shop is open. | Mon-Sat 10:00-20:00 |
| artisan=yes/only/most/some/few/no | Whether goods were produced from high quality ingredients using artisan techniques, avoiding factory production methods. For bakery goods, using full rise and rest times, avoiding frozen dough, mixes, and use of preservatives. This tag may also be qualified by the goods type: bread:artisan=most; pie:artisan=no. | |
| day_old=yes/no/only | Whether the shop sells baked goods that are not fresh today, usually at a price discount. A day_old=only shop may specialize in the sale of products nearing their marked or known expiration, usually returns from other retail businesses. | |
| produced_on_site=yes/only/most/some/few/no | Whether goods were produced at the location where they are sold. For bakery goods, that they were mixed and baked at the site. | |
| brand=* | Identifies the name of the local or commercial business producer that is the source of the goods. Useful for goods produced off site. | |
| craft=* | The shop employs a certified specialist, or meets regulatory requirements for restricted use of names or certification. | craft=baker |
| organic=yes/no/only | Whether shop sells organic food. | |
| diet:*=* | Whether the shop sells baked goods meeting certain dietary rules. | diet:gluten_free=yes |
| cuisine=* | Use only where the cuisine of shop differs from the cuisine most common in the region of the shop. | cuisine=german (for a German bakery in the U.K.) |
Similar Tags
amenity=fast_food or amenity=cafe may be a better tag for places which offer bakery goods and drinks and the product is often consumed on premises, such as many bagel or donut chains. Combination bakery and cafe businesses, having a retail bakery counter and a cafe area, may be marked with both bakery and cafe tags.
revised shop=confectionery article
Tag:shop=confectionery
A shop that sells sweets and chocolates (North Amer: candy). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confectionery
Tags to use in combination
| Tag | Description | Image | Image |
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| sweets=yes/no/only | (British) Sugar confections, chocolate bars, gums, jellies, fruit sweets, licorice, mints, toffees. (North Amer.) Sugar candy, hard candy, gummy and gelatin candy, taffy, candy bars. Typically displayed in bins or packaged in wrappers, bags, or boxes. |  |
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| chocolates=yes/no/only | Fondant, fruit, or nut center dipped in chocolate. Mass produced chocolates are typically sold in boxes, but shop may have display case trays of individual pieces. | .jpg) |
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| Tag | Description | Example |
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| name=* | Name of shop. | |
| opening_hours=* | When the shop is open. | Mo-Sa 10:00-20:00 |
| artisan=yes/only/most/some/few/no | Whether goods were produced from high quality ingredients using artisan techniques, avoiding factory production methods. For confectionery, crafted in small batches, often in the shop. | |
| produced_on_site=yes/only/most/some/few/no | Whether goods were produced at the location where they are sold. | |
| craft=* | The shop employs a certified specialist, or meets regulatory requirements for restricted use of names or certification. | craft=confectionery |
| diet:*=* | Whether the shop sells baked goods meeting certain dietary rules. | diet:gluten_free=yes |
| organic=yes/no/only | Whether the shop sells organic food. |
Artisan confectionery shops often use display cases with arrayed unpackaged products on trays and encourages customer input for selection of individual pieces.
Pictures of confectionery artisan=yes shops: 
Similar Tags
While ice cream and similar frozen desserts are included in the definition of confectionery used by English-speaking governments and trade associations, amenity=ice_cream should be used for such shops in OSM. The term confectionery does not generally apply to bakery goods, except a few goods typically eaten with the fingers such as petit fours or meringues; shop=bakery should be used for shops which offer bakery goods such as cakes, pastries and pies.
Rationale
General reasons for the proposal
The currently used English definitions for the tags are misleading or wrong. Tags for the types of goods sold at the shops are useful for users.
Oxford British dictionary:
Definition of bakery - a place where bread and cakes are sold
Definition of confectionery - a shop that sells sweets and chocolates
Wikipedia:
Bakery - A bakery (or baker's shop) is an establishment that produces and sells flour-based food baked in an oven such as bread, cakes, pastries, and pies.
Confectionery - Confectionery is related to the food items that are rich in sugar and often referred to as a confection. The words candy (North America), sweets (UK and Ireland), and lollies (Australia and New Zealand) are also used for the extensive variety of confectionery. The term does not generally apply to cakes, biscuits, or puddings which require cutlery to consume, although exceptions such as petits fours or meringues exist.
Other British dictionaries; English-speaking nation's business directories, English-speaking nation's trade associations; English-speaking nation's business use of the web; and the British, American, Canadian and Australian governments all use similar definitions. Bakeries sell bread, cakes, pastry and pies; confectioneries sell sweets and chocolates.
Defining a bakery as "sells bread" is highly misleading. In many English speaking nations, a bakery is more likely a cake or pastry shop. Walk into a shop using bakery in the name and you are unlikely to encounter just rows or bins of loaf bread, instead you will more often encounter cakes, pastries, or cookies with lesser or no selection of bread. Look at the listings in American, Australian, British, and Canadian business directories (yellow pages), Bakery is the general term with subcategories for cakes, pastries, bread and other baked goods. Non-bread bakery businesses strongly outnumber the bread businesses in the general Bakery category. Confectionery, if used as a directory category, is the place to find shops selling sweets, candies and chocolates.
English words can have multiple meanings. Unfortunately bakery, pastry, cake, confectionery, sweet, and candy are those with ambiguous meanings when tagging. Depending on locale or usage or context, pastry is a subset of cakes, cake is a subset of pastries, or pastry and cake are distinct. The most unambiguous approach is to treat them as distinct and provide definitions and examples. Confectionery is a sugary candy other than chocolates, or a candy including chocolates, or a decoration used on wedding cakes, or any dessert, or any food creation that is whimsical in nature. In OSM, it makes sense to use the most used and best understood meaning: a sweet, candy, or chocolate. Sometimes a good term is simply missing in English. A English common term for all non-bread bakery products that is not ambiguous or awkward to use does not seem to exist.
Since taggers often don't consult the wiki for definitions, and users certainly don't, it makes sense to move to tags which are less likely to be misused or misinterpreted. The current definitions are unlikely to be familiar to the tagger or user, or when known by the tagger may be resisted. ("Tag a pastry shop as a confectionery? no way, it's a bakery!"). A current user, who is a native of an English speaking nation, would first search OSM for pastry and cake shops using "bakery" (and would find many now in OSM with such a search).
This proposal aims to overcome current deficiencies with more accurate and user-friendly tags and definitions.
Reasons for choices made within the proposal
The tags in the proposal were selected on best English usage within English-speaking nations. Dictionaries, business listings, wikipedia, web usage and a discussion on the Tagging mailing list were used to determine those terms that were the most frequently used and avoid ambiguity for most taggers and users.
In the bakery goods types tags, the American/Canadian/Australian term "cookie" was chosen over the British term "biscuit' because biscuit is ambiguous. Outside the U.K., biscuit is used for another bakery good that is not a cookie. British bakeries, when using cookie, seem to give it the same meaning it has elsewhere.
The current tag name "second_day" could not be found in the dictionary and use of the term elsewhere was for package delivery. It is replaced by day_old which is in the dictionary and is in common use. Taginfo says second_day is used 3 times in OSM.
The sub type names for confectionery types are somewhat my invention. Other than a chocolates shop, no uniform categories or ways of referring to types of confectionery shops was discovered across English directories, wikipedia or other sources, yet categories of shops clearly exist and would be useful for users to know. Plural was chosen over singular for the tags as being less ambiguous.
Comments
The current proposal evolved from this thread on the OSM Tagging mail list: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2013-June/013630.html and from comments and voting on a previous version of the proposal that split bakery shop types and failed gloriously :-). You may see previous comments, the previous proposal, and the voting on the comments page.
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