Proposal talk:Key:industrial - abandoned sandbox
First I'd like to thank you for this approach, seems systematically to me. The same should IMHO also be done for other parts of OSM syntax/logic. There's a "technical" problem for the participation in this discussion : How to count the "weighting" for 1st/2nd/3rd industrial "categories" ? For example mining : Is there a difference between gas (or oil) and clay in first place ? "timber" would be a kind of harvesting (in contrast to "mining"). Food production is usually done by farmers, so there's just the question whether it's got an "industrial" size or not (=agriculture). "Industrial" transport doesn't exist for me, that's "logistics", while "warehouse" may be something "industrial" (unless building= may express the general usage). A port is also somehow an (often) "industrial size" infrastructure for logistics, but "on the ground" (while "industrial" is an attribute). The differentiation to marina may not always be given. In case of "factory" it's easier : they are not mining nor harvesting, but processing material. There are also some "mills" or "metal melting" (smelting) instances which could be seen as "1st" categories, as this is a quite basic processing of raw material. Mechanical engineering seems also to be a "1st" category, as everything else (made from raw material) could fit there. Just my 2 cents. 2nd and 3rd spared out for the moment (subcategories and syntax) user:rtfm Rtfm (talk) 22:42, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- IMHO there should be some text regarding the "logic" the (proposed) categorization is based on. Which means what IS an "industrial" tag and what should be expressed by other tags (like factory=*, *=further_details) talk Rtfm (talk) 13:45, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- You are certainly right. However, it is currently too much for me to work out something complete to that. One principle, I think, would have to apply in any case: A core purpose of the key is the more detailed description of landuse=industrial, i.e. the description of an area. --Chris2map (talk) 15:30, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- My proposal would be not to invent the wheel from scratch, but to refer to an existing categorization : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industry_classification, for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Standard_Industrial_Classification_of_Economic_Activities#Current_2007_SIC_codes
- Main Sections
- A) Agriculture, Forestry and Fishing
- B) Mining and quarrying
- C) Manufacturing
- D) Electricity, Gas, Steam and air conditioning
- E) Water supply, sewerage, waste management and remediation activities
- F) Construction
- G) Wholesale and retail trade; repair of motor vehicles and motorcycles
- H) Transport and storage
- I) Accommodation and food service activities
- J) Information and communication
- K) Financial and insurance activities
- L) Real estate activities
- M) Professional, scientific and technical activities
- N) Administrative and support service activities
- O) Public administration and defence; compulsory social security
- P) Education
- Q) Human health and social work activities
- R) Arts, entertainment and recreation
- Rtfm Rtfm (talk) 19:41, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- The problem with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industry_classification is that the key is "industrial", I.E. to define what takes place at an "industrial" area. Not "industry." As in, "the film industry." So, it doesn't work for things that are not specifically "industrial" IMO. Which a good portion of the things you listed aren't. No one would tag an art studio as industrial=gallery or a doctor as industrial=healthcare. It's just semantically wrong. There's perfectly good tags for that kind of stuff already anyway. Like with the retail trade, there's already landuse=retail and it works perfectly well as is. There's zero point in tagging things as landuse=industrial + industrial=retail even if it did semantic sense. Which it doesn't. --Adamant1 (talk) 01:51, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Is it still under construction?
Is it still in active development? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 21:57, 17 December 2021 (UTC)