Proposal talk:Nursing room
Key versus value
As a key, nursing_room=* could indicate the availability of a nursing room on the premises of some other feature, such as a restaurant or office. It could also be useful for indicating that an amenity=toilets has a nursing room attached. But in some cases, it may be necessary to map the nursing room itself. For instance, a standalone nursing room may be accessible from the exterior of a building. Or the nursing room may be located within a large building, such as an airport or mall, where indoor amenities are typically mapped in their own right.
Standalone breastfeeding room outside a train station
Breastfeeding room inside a train station (next to a "nursing station" that is actually a first aid clinic)
By analogy with the proposed key, a nursing room itself would be mapped as a node (or area) tagged with a feature tag, perhaps amenity=nursing_room. Perhaps that tag could be added to the proposal? I agree that it could be useful to tag nursing room availability on other features, just as it's possible to tag the availability of a bench on a bus stop POI, but the presence of amenity=nursing_room would lessen the need for a nursing_room:count=* key.
– Minh Nguyễn 💬 23:39, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
Tagging Examples?
Could we have some examples of how you'd tag this? Specifically I'm not sure how your scheme uses nursing_room:privacy=*? What does lock <value list> mean? Likewise with number/count, are you proposing the tags be nursing_room:count=1, or nursing_room=1? Some examples would help me understand what you mean. I suggest the latter, since it makes the data less likely to become inconsistant. What if something is tagged nursing_room=no,nursing_room:count=1 data consumers might not know what to do. Rorym (talk) 08:37, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- I removed the privacy subtag as I don't think it's particularly useful.
- I've simplified the count to your scheme, which I like. nursing_room=yes for the presence of any number of nursing rooms, and nursing_room=3 for 3 nursing_rooms. AdamE (talk) 05:00, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- I think a privacy tag is useful, but not necessary to be within scope initially for this proposal. Some mothers might like to know if they have access to a private space or if the space is communal, and if communal is it with only mothers or fathers too. --Aharvey (talk) 04:01, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Also think about places that might ban breastfeeding?
I don't have any personal experience of this, but I've heard that UK law allows one to breastfeed anywhere in public. Are there countries which don't have this law? And hence places where a public establishment can ban breastfeeding? If so, would it be good to also be able to tag this information in OSM? Can you think of a tagging scheme for that? (Keep in mind that OSM tags must be verifiable, see the problems with the motorcycle_friendly tagging proposal) Rorym (talk) 08:50, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- I am US-based, and we allow breastfeeding in public as well. I'm sure there are countries that where it would be frowned upon to breastfeed in public, but I don't think OSM is the right place for country-wide policy/culture. I highly doubt that any place would publicly post that they ban breastfeeding in their establishment, so I don't think a tag for POIs would be useful either. AdamE (talk) 05:05, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- I have no experience how often establishments (attempt to) ban breastfeeding, but a few months ago large airline KLM tweeted essentially such a breastfeeding ban on their flights. But I defer to, and await, someone with more knowledge. Rorym (talk) 10:17, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
baby_feeding
There is another tag in use baby_feeding=* which is much more popular. Would it be better to consolidate the work around this existing tag? or is that tag lacking is some regard? --Aharvey (talk) 02:05, 11 April 2021 (UTC)