Proposal talk:Place=quarter

admin_level for quarters

The boundaries of suburbs have admin_level=9 or admin_level=10 (country-specific guidelines at Key:admin_level#admin_level). Would a quarter's boundaries have a one-level-lower admin_level?

Please reply at Talk:Proposed_features/place=neighbourhood#admin_level_for_neighbourhoods. —Michael Z. 2011-09-29 03:26 z

Suburbs can coincede with administrative entities, but they don't necessarily have to anywhere in the world. This proposal is about a part of a suburb, thus smaller, and could in some cirumstances be admin_level=suburb_admin_level+1 but really it doesn't have to be an administrative entity. This is a place-level, not an admin_level. Use boundary=administrative and admin_level for administrative entities and place for settlement entities. -- Dieterdreist 13:52, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

"endless discussions?"

Linkin them to this page you should, not only just say there were some. -- malenki 15:22, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

you're right, I changed this. --Dieterdreist 17:10, 3 May 2012 (BST)

Conclusion?

I note that the period for voting as ended, but that voting is still given as being 'in progress'. What is the conclusion? Has it been approved or not? PeterIto 06:04, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

There seems to be a lot of people opposing. Personally I think we do need (at least) 3 levels for settlement parts. There is suburb and neighbourhood, and given this setting, another simple value for place instead of another key for numeric levels would be more fitting IMHO. I guess one of the problems here is that some people see neighbourhood for rather small entities, while others seem to see them at various scales up to what we call a suburb in OSM. The same seems to be true for "quarter": it can represent quite differently sized areas. I guess it is not a very big problem, as long as you document how it should be used (a step between surburb and neighbourhood).

On the other hand if we could agree on a radical change, introducing levels for settlementparts (maybe 3 or 4) and kill suburb could be an option as well. I faintly remember how much it hurt in the beginning to tag inner city parts as surburb. Anyway, places are not necessarily strictly hierachical, there might also be some overlap in the borders (as opposed to administrative borders), so there could be a place_level=3 (below) which is not perfectly contained in a place_level=2 but in two (or more) of them.--Dieterdreist 17:44, 3 May 2012 (BST)