Proposal talk:Tramtrack on highway

I would introduce it as a separate key as

• It may be useful also for other purposes, not only for cyclists
• hijacking access key for related purpose is not a good idea

Maybe tramtracks=separately_mapped? railway=separate?

Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 12:37, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

That's a very good point and for sure a more general solution. I myself bicycle a lot and don't own a car, so that's the reason for my myopia in this matter.

There is an argument that would support a bicycle access key, however. That the real problem lies with the tracks and the indent in them, and this danger is unique to bicycles. Cars are largely immune to the tracks.

--Tolstoi21 (talk) 13:37, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Tramtrack on highway lane, tramtracks on a separate lane

It would be worth noting whatever this tagging should apply to both

Sorry, I missed this point earlier, but that's another excellent point! In my view, it should apply only to the first case (that is: tramtrack on a highway lane). At least in Finland tramtracks that lie on their own lane besides a highway are off limits to all vehicles except for emergency use (ambulances, police cars and firetrucks).

--Tolstoi21 (talk) 09:37, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

I made edit to include this - hopefully it is OK. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Tramtrack_on_highway&diff=1696890&oldid=1696863 Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:00, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

tram tracks + normal lane

tram tracks on a road, separate lane for other vehicles

Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 12:43, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

The main difference between these two situations seems the number of lanes: when there are 4 lanes in total, 1+1 are typically not for trams (but when there is no tram other vehicles can use the other 2 lanes with the tracks), while the other example shows a bidirectional street with lanes=2, so all lanes are shared between trams and other vehicles. Similar to the second case are oneway streets with tram lines and 1 lane only. Given the general situation on the map around me, I am currently not doing lane mapping, but the proposal should make it possible to add this property on individual lanes. --Dieterdreist (talk) 09:35, 19 November 2018 (UTC)