Talk:INSPIRE

If you have discussed OSM with the EC or with INSPIRE please let me know. I visit the DG Environment building a few times a year and would be happy to introduce OSM to them face-to-face. It doesn't seem on their radar yet looking at their 2010 reports. Thanks! --Jmkie 16:51, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

As far as I can tell from this page, INSPIRE isn't really on OSM's radar either. Which, IMVHO, is a pity.

INSPIRE is a common semantic geodata specification for the entire European Union. If you ever tried to convince two OSM mappers to use the same tags for the same type of roads, scale that up to all European countries, and you get an idea of what INSPIRE aspires to be. The first datasets are slowly being published, and it would be a great opportunity to define a 1:1 mapping of INSPIRE semantics to OSM tags, so you can convert losslessly and unambiguously between INSPIRE datasets and .osm. If that mapping works both ways, that may be an opportunity to get OSM data into national authoritative datasets. -- Relet (talk) 13:12, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Is INSPIRE "unusable in OSM" indeed?

I can read in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/INSPIRE article:
"As of 2013 the data was on licensing rules making it unusable in OSM".
What does this statement mean?
Is it still true?
Maybe this statement is inaccurate and misleading and should be corrected?
INSPIRE ID is used as unique ID for different objects - e.g. heritage objects or natural monument.
Why INSPIRE ID can be useful:
Example: In Poland, the NID ID is traditionally used to identify heritage objects - in OSM tagged as ref:nid. However, this NID ID is an old system, which does not ensure the uniqueness of numbers in practice. INSPIRE IDs, on the other hand, are unique and allow heritage objects to be uniquely identified.
See database with heritage objects of Poland and its INSPIRE ID -> https://dane.gov.pl/pl/dataset/1130,rejestr-zabytkow-nieruchomych/resource/53559/table?page=1&per_page=20&q=&sort=
You can check in this database what INSPIRE ID a particulat heritage object has.
For example, see Wawel Cathedral in Kraków, Poland. INSPIRE ID of the Wawel Cathedral is PL.1.9.ZIPOZ.NID_N_12_BK.206051
The object can be found by INSPIRE ID - for example:
- on this map -> https://mapy.zabytek.gov.pl/nid/
or
- in the database -> https://dane.gov.pl/pl/dataset/1130,rejestr-zabytkow-nieruchomych/resource/53559/table?page=1&per_page=20&q=&sort=

Can we read INSPIRE ID from this database and assign this ID to an object in OSM? I want to use only INSPIRE ID value.
I can read that license is CC BY 4.0 DEED (see the link to the database above and click "Warunki wykorzystywania: Zwiń").

Conlusion:
- If we could use INSPIRE ID as a reference (ref:inspire or ref:INSPIRE), then it would be very useful in OSM.
- If INSPIRE ID could not be used for heritage objects or natural monuments in OSM, it would be ridiculous and against common sense.

--Las Wolski 14:15, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

I believe that the 2013 statement is specifically about "UK INSPIRE Polygons" which the Ordnance Survey took a company 77M to court for using. They lost and the data became usable. However you are talking specifically about INSPIRE IDs which I'm pretty sure have always been Open Data Jnicho02 (talk) 18:00, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

I believe that linking by inspire id is fine (ref:inspire=*), even if we could not import INSPIRE dataset Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 20:30, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

i agree with Mateusz. That note about 2013 was UK-specific, and confusing, so i've moved it to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Property_extents_in_the_United_Kingdom#INSPIRE_Land_Registry_index_polygons Jnicho02 (talk) 13:43, 4 March 2024 (UTC)