Talk:Key:faculty

Free form discussion

How an why faculty=* can be combined with office=*? In which case faculty would consist solely of an office? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 13:04, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

There are building=university which consist of several room=lecture_hall and different faculty offices (means it's not always the whole building) Rtfm (talk) 13:21, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

But faculty=* according to description is for, well, faculty - so would be mapped once per each faculty, right? 15:00, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

I assume you mean it shouldn't be mapped several times for the same faculty ? (Except it got several offices / buildings) Rtfm (talk) 01:15, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

This depends on their fundamental definition. faculty=* seems to be an attribute, not feature. --- Kovposch (talk) 04:40, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Describing it clearly would be nice. And then how you map university department/subsection? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 16:03, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes. This thing needs concrete examples and clarity about what a "Faculty" is. Shall we split out the discussion into questions and resolve each section? --achadwick (talk) 23:22, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Attribute or Object?

(Decide: is this tag an attribute for other objects that belong to a faculty or just for the faculty's head offices?)

The controlled vocabulary seems to imply that it's an attribute which can be taken by any offices, labs, libraries, lecture theatres or other physical parts of a university. I agree with Kovposch that this is an attribute that should be added to physical objects or address nodes. Put simply: faculties can have lots of different buildings. This tag broadly, and with a controlled vocabulary, can map them to something at the university-departmental level --achadwick (talk) 23:22, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

The usage seems to suggest an attribute type of meaning for what's out there too --achadwick (talk)

faculty=*

More details at taginfo

More details at taginfo

Syntax review

(Raise any syntax issues here)

Seems good to me. English language words, lowercase, with underscores. I like the idea of having a (mostly) controlled vocabulary for this instead of a hundred different natural-language terms for the same thing (international variations, misspellings, used of "&" and "and"...)

Semantics review

(Gather the meaning of this tag from what's in use)

The page should probably list a few things that this tag implies? List them below. I'm rather assuming that this tag will be documented as an attribute. --achadwick (talk) 23:22, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

• The object is used as part of academic teaching or research, or for organising these activities
• The object is for higher education (it's part of a amenity=university)

Relation to other tags

(Add other tags for the "See Also" section)

• office=university

There may be offices within a university that are organisationally "above" (containing) or "below" (contained within) the "faculty" level. These ought not to be assigned faculty=* as an attribute. The page should probably mention that? --achadwick (talk) 23:22, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Recommend documenting uni-specific vocabularies

Each university will be a little different, and may have to add its own tag values. Mappers should start with taginfo and the major ones documented on this page, but this page should mention that it's probably a good idea to document the vocabulary in use for each university on the OSM wiki page for the university it's city/town. Good documentation should map each one to its formal departmental name, as used within the particular university. All agreed? --achadwick (talk) 23:22, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

faculty=*

More details at taginfo

More details at taginfo

University org chart examples (informative)

The level of organisation that can be called a "faculty" probably varies between universities quite a bit. Let's collect some examples to help the thought process. If you work for a university and understand it a bit, please drop a link to something showing how it's structured at the departmental/faculty/school/unit level and a few words of description. This isn't normative or exhaustive, it's more for comparison and information gathering, so please don't specify any tags! --achadwick (talk) 23:22, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

• University of Oxford, UK: Divisions and Departments
  • Four academic "Divisions", and two non-academic groupings at the divisional level (according to this chart)
  • Divisions at this place are probably not faculties in the sense of this tag. Instead, they contain faculties.
    • "Faculty"-level groupings here are named "schools", "institutes", "departments", and sometimes (wow.) even "faculty" (the older ones in particular get called that)
    • ("Colleges" here mean something completely different. "Colleges" at this university are not a "faculty" in the sense of this tag.)
    • Departments often have smaller "units" contained within them. These can even move between departments. over time.
• University of Cologne, Germany: Organization --Ok5nS (talk) 11:20, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Six academic devisions called 'faculties'
    • 'faculties' are subdivided into 'departments'