Talk:Tag:railway=halt

Please, write about the differences between railway=halt and Tag:railway=tram_stop. -- Akavel 22:27, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

As far as I see, Tag:railway=halt is considered for train stopping points (German: Haltepunkt) that are no station. Maybe the description should be altered to reflect this and tram should be replaced by rail in the first occurence. -- Quelbs 15:41, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I think the difference can be seen at Key:railway. So the description should be updated instead of merging with Tag:railway=tram_stop to be consistent with the description on Key:railway where the difference can be seen. -- Quelbs 19:58, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Where is the difference ? It's the same meaning. The only difference is the railway itself tagged railway=rail for trains and railway=tram for trams. And we could use the same tag for the halt nodes. -- Pieren 11:03, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

The difference is that different vehicles are stopping at these points. I know there are shared uses of rails for tram and train (Karlsruhe model). In this cases it could be useful to be able to differentiate between Tag:railway=tram_stop and Tag:railway=halt. The description "A small station, may not have a platform, trains may only stop on request." of a Tag:railway=halt would also not fit to a tram stop. -- Quelbs 15:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

In case of shared halts, the difference is done by the way on which the node is attached. So I still expect a good argument for two different tags for the same thing. If the definition in Tag:railway=halt is the problem, then we can simply revert the last edits and comeback to the original definition which covered both cases. -- Pieren 15:33, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Difference between halt and station

According to the wiki, the difference is "It's not a station because it has no switches." This should be clarified to mean that there is no crossover facility for trains at a halt. It might also be worth mentioning that most subway stations are actually halts --Planemad/Talk 06:43, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

I don't think there's much to distinguish. I consider all as 'stations'. Determining based on size, as the wiki suggests, is too subjective IMO. How is 'size' determined? The number of platforms? Tracks? Passenger usage (which fluctuates)? Note, OSM doesn't have an equivalent tag to distinguish really big stations. The 'request stop' option is much more worthy, but I don't think using the value of a primary tag which bares no relation to what is being described is the correct way to do it. To that end, in the UK, I've added request_stop=yes to all stations that are request stops. I've tried, but confess I've failed to comprehend the German meaning. it appears quite convoluted. Would a typical German commuter understand the meaning?

--DaveF63 (talk) 00:28, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Turning around

Does the definition of a halt have anything to do with if a train can turn around at the station/halt or not? --Adamant1 (talk) 10:47, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

No. There are yards with no station or a minor one ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/50.0894/20.1273 ), there are full sized stations where turning train around is not possible ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/50.08197/19.91742 ) Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 11:06, 1 February 2020 (UTC)