Talk:Tag:shop=hardware

shop=doityourself

I think this is too similar with the existing and widely used Tag:shop=doityourself. --Head 10:28, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Not sure about that, the typical hardware store around here, Ace hardware, has on its front page stuff like fertilizer, grilling equipment, paint supplies, pest control, air conditioners, and other stuff that really wouldn't fit under DIY --sargas 16:27, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree. There is some overlap, but there's certainly hardware shops which you wouldn't call DIY stores. Could argue that all DIY stores are hardware shops though :-) DIY stores tend to be more end-consumer shopping experiences, while hardware shops are where the tradesmen go for their supplies. I tend to think DIY stores are much bigger. ...Beyond that I'm not sure how best to define the difference. - Harry Wood 15:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

"doityourself" is an amazingly awkward name for what has always been known as a hardware store. The doityourself tag should be deprecated and replaced with this one. Butlerm 17:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

"doityourself" is a bit US word and don't take the global meaning into account. I agree with Butlerm that "shop=doityourself" should be replaced with "shop=hardware". --Kslotte 00:45, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

In the U.S., most newer hardware stores are anything but "small". Butlerm 17:43, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree, "doityourself" does not stand for what it is (they sell more than just doityourself stuff), but it is more widely used than shop=hardware. --Oligo 11:00, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

+1 Not sure at all on the difference between shop=doityourself and shop=hardware. As I understand, they should be merged. The description of hardware "A shop where you can buy screws and bolts, nails, hooks and other metal materials as well as metal tools. A hardware shop will often stock a wide range of products which can include building, electrical, plumbing supplies, garden tools, power tools, kitchenware, homeware, locks, keys, and a key-cutting" and are "A Do-it-Yourself-store (DIY for short) offers supplies for doing things yourself - household repairs and improvements, making things from wood and other materials. For example: paint, drilling machine, light-bulbs, screw-driver, bbq-stuff" are pretty much the same thing.

In short, they're not mutually exclusive unless we clarify the distinction(s). Skorasaurus 16:26, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Builders merchant

"Builders merchant" is another type of shop with some overlap. Or "building supplies". Big warehouse type shop selling raw building materials. These can be quite specialised too e.g. a timber merchants, or place just selling concrete mix type stuff. The word "hardware" doesn't fit so well there. Hardware suggests tools or nails & screws. -- Harry Wood 11:44, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Tag shop=construction seems a good candidate for those warehouses. --Oligo 11:00, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

locksmiths

As a slightly off-topic comment... We also don't have a tag for a locksmiths shop:

shop=locksmith ? -- Harry Wood 16:08, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I fully agree that we also need a locksmith. "Hardware" is currently the closest for that purpose. --Kslotte 23:20, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Draft shop=locksmith created. --Kslotte 17:02, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Kitchenware

There's a quick mention of "kitchenware" on this Tag:shop=hardware page. So I guess this tag encompasses that kind of shop. Could add this photo:

Sometimes shops sell only kitchenware, and this might include ceramics and plastic goods, which doesn't conjure the word "hardware" quite so naturally. In North London there's quite a few shops which I've mapped as shop=variety_store because they do a lot of kitchenware but also all kinds of other "household" stuff. mops, plastic buckets, washing up brushes, bogroll, etc

-- Harry Wood 13:35, 5 November 2012 (UTC)