User talk:Minh Nguyen/Navigating between entrances

Golf Courses would be a good addition to your list of examples.

I was considering proposing a tag: entrance:[transportType]=[entranceType]. [TransportationType] would come from the list in access:Land-based_transportation. A park could have entrance:vehicle=main as a node intersection its boundary and a highway=*. I think it would support things like airports that have separate entrance:taxi=main, entrance:bus=main, entrance:motor_vehicle=main

I think this would be as simple as it could be for mappers and data consumers. There'd be no need to understand semantics about specific element types, which I worry could be interpreted inconsistently.

I'm interested in your thoughts. Blackboxlogic (talk) 17:16, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

@Blackboxlogic: Thanks, I added an example of how to interpret a gated golf club community. Sometimes entrances do discriminate by vehicle type, but I think those kinds of restrictions are largely already covered by access tags on roads and barriers, which routers already recognize. This proposal goes a step further by allowing applications to ask the user about their intent, not just what kind of vehicle they're driving. After all, a gig worker could be delivering to a gated golf club community in a compact car. – Minh Nguyễn ^💬 17:59, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Not sure why site relations feature so heavily. I'm not aware of these being used for much other than windfarms in the UK.

An amusing issue which I'm not sure exists anymore, but certainly did when I was a child, is residential houses where the family & friends only use a side entrance, the main entrance being reserved for formal occasions and strangers without a clue; and, of course, most deliveries. In poorer houses this was because they were not parlour houses so the front door opened directly into the living room. This rarely applied to richer people with larger houses, who had no inhibitions about using the front door. The very rich, would, of course, have a separate door for tradespeople.

For British football stadia it is important to know where "away fans" are situated in the ground. Usually this will be a named grandstand and specific entrance gates. More complex is that in some cases I think there are distinct traffic routes & parking facilities to keep home & away fans separate. SK53 (talk) 14:34, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

@SK53: This article is primarily intended to inform data consumers rather than mappers, so it focuses on things data consumers can reliably use to detect navigable points, rather than recommending a particular mapping scheme to mappers. Such an article would make sense to compile though.

Rules about entrances can get pretty complex. I'm aware of a high school in the Houston area that reserves one entrance for upperclassmen and another for underclassmen as a matter of privilege. At least an application could let the user choose which entrance they intend to use, with the understanding that they know the rules.

– Minh Nguyễn ^💬 03:46, 17 February 2022 (UTC)