Proposal:All sports
| all sports | |
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| Proposal status: | Abandoned (inactive) |
| Proposed by: | Ojw |
| Tagging: | sport=* |
| Applies to: | node/area |
| Definition: | Proposal to use an external standard for our list of sports |
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| Draft started: | |
| Proposed on: | 2008-02-04 |
Proposal
Rather than having a wiki page + discussion + RFC + vote for every new sport we discover (e.g. Proposed features/Handball), we say that anything listed on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports is a valid value for the sport= tag
rationale
Reduce the effort spent maintaining a separate OSM 'list of sports' when one already exists
See also
Other sport= tags
Tagging
- sport = [any page name listed on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports ]
Remove any bracketed text from the wiki page name if it exists.
Use lower-case for single-word sport names, e.g. Rugby -> sport=rugby
Replace spaces with underscores, e.g. Indoor soccer -> sport=indoor_soccer
Proposed Rendering
Rendering issues not covered by this proposal
Opinion
Assume english wikipedia is a reasonable choice? (most existing tag values are in english, e.g. sport=football|swimming|rugby|climbing)? Ojw 08:39, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
This also means that it's trivial to locate the wiki page for any sport, and therefore the english wikipedia's interlingual links can be used to translate the entire OSM list of sports into any language that wikipedia supports. Ojw 08:51, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
excellent idea. there are sometimes extra tags we might need for some sports, but i guess they can be added later by the usual process (e.g. shooting, to include paintball/clay pigeon/etc). i'll def support this, will clear the proposed features page and create lots of useful tags very quickly Myfanwy 21:23, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, sounds like a very good approach. I've just added a hint how to deal with spaces in tag names (replace them with underscores) to be consistent with our other tagging usage. Unfortunately, the most famous sport here in germany (soccer) would have been tagged with "association football". While I'm not a native speaker, I would perfectly understand soccer, but would have to take a dictionary what "association football" really is. Maybe we should just support both in this case - german mappers would use soccer anyway I guess :-) - Ulfl 21:38, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- In this case it may be useful to have an 'exception list' for the oddities that wikipedia has. --Edgemaster 00:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
What happens if Wikipedia rename a sport in their list? Do we have to change tags in our database? In fact I could just rename a sport and this would make tags invalid in the OSM database... I suggest we standardize on one version of the wiki page and perhaps annually review any changes to the list. --TimSC 17:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
I like the idea of referencing some other canonical list, but I think a lot (most) of the sports on that page are much too specific for our purposes. My initial thought is to suggest using the sport "families" listed on that page instead, but those are far too general. My conclusion is that it's just not a good fit at all. --Hawke 16:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- I agree :( We do not need such a kind of list, or at least not that one, sometimes family are too generic and many other timer single sport are too specific. I mean that most of them are not easily found in a town, so maybe we could accept that as a reference and simplify the process of proposal/voting but accept it "in toto" I dislike. Emilio 13:07, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
I support the idea, especially as I'm just in preparation of a proposal for another sport=*- tag (scuba_diving in particular). But the suggestion of TimSC is very good as well - we should standardize on one special version of the wiki-page by copying it to the OSM-Wiki. This would allow small changes to the list as well, as proposed by Ulfl or Emilio. --Spielkind 17:33, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I support the idea too. Also because I was just in preparations for various tags on martial arts sports: Karate, Tae Kwon Do, Vovinam, Viet Vo Dao, Tai Chi, Kung Fu, ... incl. substyles. I think about creating martial arts related location based map. As mentioned by Emilio I also think about focusing on one clearly defined version of the page. This will prevent confusion in eg. discussions while the Wikipedia page changes over time. But I think we schould not copy and modify it. It would require time consuming merging every time the list is updated. Thomas P 18:48, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Creating multiple wiki pages is perfectly fine, there is no good reason to not do this. Either page is very simple to create or it contains useful info not present on Wikipedia Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 16:17, 6 March 2018 (UTC)