Proposal talk:Mtb:description

A detail : I think you are confusing the note=* wich is for internal information between osm mappers and description=* which is for public viewing. So I would prefer mtb_description to stay consistent. And since I am happy with name space systems, I would propose desription:mtb=Here you have to carry your bike for 100m or so (or mtb:description=*)

Advantage is, if someone don't want to build a map with words, he just need to filter description* out, to ease his pain (I know what I'm talking about) ) Sletuffe 21:47, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I thought of this more like a blackboard where you can place any sort of note or description that doesn't fit the other categories, but is related mainly/only to mtbiking. The description:mtb seems a very good one too however. Also things like mtb_note: I've only looked down the trail from above. Maybe conditions are different. Please recheck and correct in the map. I now think maybe we should have to seperate keys for this one. One that is supposed to be taken into a mtb_map (like description), and one that is only of interest to people correcting trails of someone else.--Extremecarver 22:26, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I am fine with description:mtb. But a bit confused about note:mtb for internal information instead of just note. Suppose a hiker guy goes on the trail, He will probably ignore note:mtb but might well be able to correct it's shape with his GPS for instance Sletuffe 23:36, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Since we agree I'll change the proposal to description:mtb --Phobie 06:47, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Just a detail but you read it wrong maybe, it was proposed as mtb:description so that we stay consistent and that all goes into mtb:* stuff just like the Proposed features/Piste Maps namespace Sletuffe 11:31, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Whoops sorry my bad, it's not clear wether it is mtb:description or description:mtb I'am in favor of mtb:description what do you all think ? Sletuffe 11:33, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm also in favor of mtb:description. Makes it easier to mtbikers to find data relavant to them--Extremecarver 11:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Me too (mtb:description). What is about replacing description with something that fits better - "Info" ? --Mightym 14:34, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Also I agree with you about "info" instead of "description" (shorter, less typo errors, etc.) I think it is not that much of a big deal, and since description=* is allready in use, I would prefer to stay consistent and... yeah, hard for the lazy guy I am, but spend 7 more characters just to stay consistent (and hope editors will include it in their mtb menus later ) Sletuffe 22:11, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, "info" is a good alternative. Perhaps it would be wise to change the generic description=* to info=* also. I prefer info:mtb=* but I also accept mtb:info=* if the majority needs that. For subkeying it is logical to write the subkeys right and the main key left. And since this a subkey of description=*/info=* the mtb should be on the right side! --Phobie 05:24, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

The order doesn't really matter for the parsing process. --Phobie 05:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I doubt there are any chance that we manage to deprecate description=*, I am all in favor of info every where description is used, but since I prefer to stay consistent, if we don't deprecate description to info, I would prefere to stay with description. the mtb:description VS description:mtb is not that important in the end. Phobie's comment is right, it it a "description" and it is for mtb, so description:mtb sounds better, but on the other hand, if I am interested on anything related to mtb, I know any mtb:*=* stuff is related to mtb, and in that case I think it would make simplier mtb related tools if we use mtb:description=*. So I am still in favor of the last, and I don't see that as being a big deal. Sletuffe 14:36, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi, there is often information on mtb-tracks which can't be categorized and could go into a mtb:description tag. So how about starting a vote? :-) --Kaivi 18:59, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm okay with that ! GO !! (do you manage the wiki page and mailing list annonce ?)Sletuffe 21:10, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I'll try. If I understood it right, everyone can start a vote, hope it's ok for extremecarver, who started the proposal. Status: We go for mtb:description, all other proposals and orders (mtb in front or second) are discarded. If there is no negativ response, I'll start the vote tomorrow.

Language

What language shoulde the description be in? -- Gustavf 20:33, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I suppose we would tag it in the local language like we do with name=* and adding mtb:description:fr mtb:description:it mtb:description:es if needed Sletuffe 22:14, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Good idea, so you can have the same text in different languages. Default/most commonly used is english? --Kaivi 19:47, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Difference to description

One proposal whithin the voting was to use the normal description tag. Since there are many things which are only of interest for mtbiking end eventually misleading for other users, I think it is good to have a separate tag for mtb (and perhaps for other users as well?) --Kaivi 10:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)