Proposal talk:Stamping point
Transient object ?
Is this something only present during a race or a competition ? If yes, OSM is not the right place for such temporary objects which do not exist before the competition and definitely disseapears afterwards. --Pieren 12:22, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Of course it is not a transient object. In Hungary there are stamping points, that are since more than 50 years at the same position. -- Herrbert74 19:08, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- "participants", "checkpoints" sounded like a temporary installation for a race. Your description should be more clear about this "permanent feature" otherwise it could be used for orienteering races for instance. --Pieren 13:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
- I agree in that "participants" should be replaced by "hikers" or something. But "checkpoints" seems ok. When you complete a route, you can show your stamps sheet to some responsible tourism organisation, who will give (sell) you a little trophy which you can proudly clip on your hat. However, all of this has come out of fashion decades ago, at least here in Austria, where stamping points (labelled "Selbstkontrolle") are still abundant, but mostly unused. Most of them are in the state of dissolving. We may think about using historic=* instead of tourism=*, although tourism=stamping_point + disused/abandoned/ruins=yes seems more correct. --Fkv 16:28, 2 May 2011 (BST)
- I cleared the description on transient/permanent objects. The stamping points are not historic objects, not even in Austria. I saw pictures of stamping points in austria that are frequently used. This one, for example at Dürnbacher Wasserfall:
- https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/SVA-hyx4gMyhcbYzQmyM9Q?feat=directlink
- https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/zE19XoXq3Dct2Ud1I5PqBg?feat=directlink
- They are also used on the more famous St. James' Way or El Camino de Santiago. --Herrbert74 01:42, 10 July 2011 (BST)
- I agree in that "participants" should be replaced by "hikers" or something. But "checkpoints" seems ok. When you complete a route, you can show your stamps sheet to some responsible tourism organisation, who will give (sell) you a little trophy which you can proudly clip on your hat. However, all of this has come out of fashion decades ago, at least here in Austria, where stamping points (labelled "Selbstkontrolle") are still abundant, but mostly unused. Most of them are in the state of dissolving. We may think about using historic=* instead of tourism=*, although tourism=stamping_point + disused/abandoned/ruins=yes seems more correct. --Fkv 16:28, 2 May 2011 (BST)
- "participants", "checkpoints" sounded like a temporary installation for a race. Your description should be more clear about this "permanent feature" otherwise it could be used for orienteering races for instance. --Pieren 13:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
AFAIK this is a general feature, (admittedly not many people might be interested in), and OSM offers space also for special interest. I support this proposal. -- Dieterdreist 18:54, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
not on buildings
I agree on the mapping, but it should not be put on buildings. When I see your photo's, stamping posts are smal boxes next to the road or maybe in a public building like a pub. There are no buildings build that are just a stamping post right? So the stamping point should always be a node (perhaps in a building). If there are buildings made especially as stamping points (which I highly doubt) that it could be tagged as a building. Anyway, if you open the voting, I am for. --Sanderd17 16:25, 11 July 2011 (BST)
- Interesting point. I think the tag is not describing the building as a whole, but only a feature. Also I don't like to tag nodes that are part of a(n) way/area. And where do you put the node with the tag if the stamp is inside the building, e.g. in a pub under the counter? Putting it on the entrance would be misleading, because it implies that the stamp is on the wall, so you can use it outside opening hours. On the other hand how can I render the stamp if the house already have another icon? Would tagging a node solve this problem? I think the render would not look nice. --Herrbert74 21:19, 11 July 2011 (BST)
Electronic stamping points?
Will this include electronic checkpoints/stamping points? See for example Trailblaze (which are now appearing on some long distance paths in England). You are only able to use these if you have the appropriate dibber / timing tag for that system, so it would be useful to have a tag to distinguish them. --Vclaw 13:33, 14 July 2011 (BST)
Needs more workshopping
This hasn't been thought through enough. My first impression of "tourism=stamping_point" was it's some kind of ticket punching machine for public transport. If we're talking about just hiking, call it a "tourism=hiking_checkpoint". If we're talking about something broader, let's find out what other use cases would fit here. Tags live for a long time and are surprisingly hard to change. Let's not rush in with a badly named tag that we'll end up abusing for other purposes down the track. Stevage 05:04, 15 July 2011 (BST)