Proposal talk:*=vehicle depot

Tram depot

I like your proposition in general, because it better uses existing categories, however it looks it would be problem when tagging tram depot: how one should tag railway=tram + railway=depot? Probably you need some other description, like: railway:tram=depot. --Kocio (talk) 12:36, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

• I added mention of depot subtag (idea from Proposed features/Depot). So tram depot may be tagged as landuse=commercial commercial=depot depot=tram Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 12:53, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
  • What landuse should we use for example for tram depot? I am not sure commercial is the right one for depots in genral, maybe rather industrial or even railway. What is the justification? BTW: tram depot should be added to examples as it is very popular and the system is not that clear. Kocio (talk) 14:03, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
    • Added. Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 14:17, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the examples, but I still need some background why do you propose such landuses, because this is not clear for me. In particular:

1. I don't know how to recognize "tram depot, operated as part of a railway system" from regular tram depot and I think this is artificial obstacle, because all the tram lines belong to the railway=* namespace anyway.
2. I still don't get why bus depot should be treated as commercial rather than industrial entity - "Predominantly offices, business parks, etc." (business activity) is worse match for depots than "Predominantly workshops, factories or warehouses" (not only factories, but also other technical infrastructure). Visual hint: AFAIK landuse=railway uses the same color as industrial, so I expect bus depot to be in the same category.

--Kocio (talk) 15:01, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Database hint: commercial=depot is not even used, while industrial=depot and railway=depot already are:

railway=depot	commercial=depot	industrial=depot

--Kocio (talk) 15:10, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

construction

I have a problem with landuse=construction + construction=depot. Typically the construction key is used to store what the finished feature will be, e.g. highway=construction+construction=primary and the wiki page for construction=* suggests it may also be used on landuse. Breaking this would be confusing. —M!dgard [ talk ] 12:59, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

• Also: would you have to split the construction site (even making a multipolygon) to add a vehicle depot on it?

 ____________        1: landuse=construction
|     ___    |          name=OpenStreetMap Foundation HQ
|    | 2 |   |
| 1  |___|   |       2: landuse=construction
|____________|          construction=depot

—M!dgard [ talk ] 13:11, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

• I removed construction example as it seems that nobody is tagging such features Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 13:46, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Why only vehicles?

Why do you limit the depot to vehicles in the definition? What about a depot for building materials, or chemical raw materials? --Polarbear w (talk) 20:51, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

• As suggested on mailing list I changed value to vehicle_depot to make it less misleading Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 21:42, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
• "to make it less misleading"? What is your plan for the other depots mentioned above? How do they fit into your system? Wikipedia shows many types of a depot, does it really make sense to invent a separate key for each one? I would like to choose a system that covers all your needs.
  What about this system? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Depot --Is-zUser (talk) 17:45, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
  • "What is your plan for the other depots mentioned above?" invent other new tags if that is necessary Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 22:33, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
  • "What about this system? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Depot" - new landuse value for any kind of depot, no matter its use is a poor idea. Just a vehicle depot may contain tanks for army or busses for public transport or snowmobiles for tourists. The same top level landuse value for all of them is a poor idea Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 22:35, 25 November 2018 (UTC)